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Telethon show. [Oct. 12th, 2010|09:56 am]
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Looks like we will have the Telethon show on November 14th, with a break on 11/21, and anniversary show on 11/28.


In other News..  I may need to take away the archives..  Looking at the music licensing fees for the traffic so far, and projected fees, we are looking at over $10,000 in music licensing fees....  There is no way we can do this, so I may end up scrapping the old archives idea  (The main reason we did not do this in the past was for this very same reason.)
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[User Picture]From: [info]doodlesthegreat
2010-10-12 04:14 pm (UTC)

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Would these be annual fees or one-time?
[User Picture]From: [info]yappyfox
2010-10-12 06:09 pm (UTC)

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Annual.
[User Picture]From: [info]sawblade5
2010-10-12 04:38 pm (UTC)

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One thing I hope you don't do is kill the Archives by the time Episode 1 is uploaded. I really want a copy of FPS Show #1! Maybe you should get that one uploaded next if you plan non killing it.
[User Picture]From: [info]atkelar
2010-10-12 05:51 pm (UTC)

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Hmmm.... predicted traffic... based on the current traffic I assume? Traffic might die down to a dribble after the real fans/watchers have their download - I assume this is considered?

Edit: also, what counts as traffic - licensing wise. Number of hits, downloads or bytes? Because the number of hits and the number of bytes might be significantly higher than the actual downloads due to download managers (resuming) or broken downloads (restarting)...

Edited at 2010-10-12 05:53 pm (UTC)
[User Picture]From: [info]yappyfox
2010-10-12 06:15 pm (UTC)

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it is based on page impressions.. and even filtering everything else out and leaving behind just the mp4 files, it was absurd.. problem is, these licensing agencies are musicians, not IT guys, and they don't know about these things like multi-threaded sessions that really throw the REQ count high.. because in actuality, a four hour show could generate a thosand hits in itself, and flasly inflate.

Then there is live streams.. live streams don't even have req counts that I can even log.

I've posed the question about trying to record data by viewer per hour to see if they have such a formula.

on the last show, I was able to record 305 connected viewers... and then if I apply that to the downloads, I would rather record how many unique IP's hit each file, and count that as a viewer X 4 hours ..

Waiting to hear back from them.
[User Picture]From: [info]alfador_fox
2010-10-13 08:29 pm (UTC)

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The licensing agencies aren't even musicians, they're lawyer-types who leech off the musicians.

If you conversed with the actual musicians involved, it'd probably go something like this.

"Well, we want a cut of the profits."
"There are no profits. I make no money off this."
"Oh, well go right ahead then."
[User Picture]From: [info]cactusjack1999
2010-10-13 11:52 pm (UTC)

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Unless you're Lars Ulrich from metallica...

Can someone explain why the RIAA thinks a single song from ANY song from ANY album is worth $139,000??? Seriously!
[User Picture]From: [info]alfador_fox
2010-10-14 04:17 am (UTC)

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The explanation is simple.

They are greedy assholes.

See how easy that was?
[User Picture]From: [info]cactusjack1999
2010-10-14 05:08 am (UTC)

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I know... I was being sarcastic
[User Picture]From: [info]alfador_fox
2010-10-14 05:19 am (UTC)

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Sorry then; sarcasm doesn't transmit well in plain text.

Especially to me. :P
[User Picture]From: [info]salem_wikkat
2010-10-12 06:26 pm (UTC)

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Scrapping old show archives but what about recent? As in say a month of leeway at a time.
[User Picture]From: [info]aj_hyena
2010-10-12 06:29 pm (UTC)

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We hit 10K in donations once... we can do it again, and with the quality of work you put out, we can do it again and again as much as we need to.

I know, wishful thinking in this economy, but one of Mutt's paintings went for what, 2K? Too bad there isn't enough time in the world to do 5 or 6 in a timely fashion...
[User Picture]From: [info]rapidtrabbit
2010-10-21 05:41 am (UTC)

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Even if the show raised that amount of money, would it really be prudent to just flush all that cash down the drain in liscensing fees as opposed to providing continued funding for both hardware and software resources to keep the production going?
[User Picture]From: [info]bjorn_grafeldr
2010-10-12 06:48 pm (UTC)

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How about taking away the archives and instead selling season sets on dvd through the website? Would you still run into the same licensing issue? I know I'd be ok with shelling out some cash for a season or two.
[User Picture]From: [info]salem_wikkat
2010-10-12 08:24 pm (UTC)

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This. I'd much rather buy a DVD of episodes in a "season" set myself than download. Most of the time I download, run through a program, and play the episodes on my big screen when I download them.
[User Picture]From: [info]sawblade5
2010-10-13 05:08 am (UTC)

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Just remember that the FPS Show is 4 Hours Long and you can probably fit only 1 Episode per DVD, Maybe 3 if it's Duel Layer DVD!
[User Picture]From: [info]snapai
2010-10-13 11:33 am (UTC)

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IIRC, Yappy gets to buy the "cheap" licenses, only because he doesn't charge for the show. If he offers sales, then fees go through the roof.

That might be different if the show registered as a nonprofit corp, but that would require a ton of extra overhead and tax paperwork. :P

(I could be entirely wrong about that, though')
[User Picture]From: [info]dragonheadthing
2010-10-12 11:27 pm (UTC)

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Darn it! Well, at least you figured it out before people came after you. (Hope you can get #70 and the first show up before then though.)
[User Picture]From: [info]cactusjack1999
2010-10-13 05:34 pm (UTC)

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I wouldn't totally get rid of the archives.

If anything keep it as an online back up of the DVD's. Many of those have failed and it is easier to keep things on an off site backup drive as a redundant archive in addition to the DVD's.

It's kinda strange that it's not possible to set up a streaming set up on ustream or something where it would automatically play the "Archive" 24/7 in random or chronological order without there having to be any human interaction.

Not to mention it's not possible to "censor" any content that ustream would object to and get banned once again for stupid copyright reasons.
[User Picture]From: [info]kero9x
2010-10-13 09:56 pm (UTC)

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If keeping the online archive up isn't feasible, perhaps something could be set up where people who want the full archive (or a good chunk of it) can send in a blank hard drive (shipping pre-paid), and Yappy can copy the files to it and ship it back.

I originally thought that maybe a small fee could be charged for this (to go towards the show, of course), though I'm not sure if that would violate the licensing agreement, somehow.

There's about 175 GB of data uploaded so far, according to the downloads page. I can't imagine the complete archive being larger than 250 GB, so sending in a 300 GB drive (which is pretty inexpensive these days) wouldn't be too difficult, for those who want to.